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Thinking Outside the Church: A New Podcast to Help YOU in Your Fresh Expressions Journey

Thinking Outside the Church is a new, limited series podcast by Ben & Katie Conrad, hosting conversations about the modern church culture and new ways of expressing Christian Community!

Each Monday for the next six weeks they’ll be dropping a new episode to help you in your Fresh Expressions journey!

Today: Thinking Outside the Church: Episode 0 – “They’re Saying That About the Church?”

This episode introduces a five-episode miniseries which delves into topics such as the dramatic shift in American Church culture and how we as faithful Christians can respond in meaningful ways. Keep up with the weekly episode releases by following the podcast on Spotify, Anchor FM, and on the Facebook page @totcpodcast

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Fresh Expressions

Fresh Expressions


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