New- Michael Beck on the Blended Ecology (Listen)

Thinking Outside the Church: Episode 3 “Blended Ecology (Both/And Church)”

Ben talks with Michael Beck, who is the Director of Remissioning at Fresh Expressions, and the co-pastor Wildwood United Methodist Church. They talk about what church looks like when it lives out its inherited roots but also branches out into the community to express Christian faith through things like running, tattoos, and burritos.

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Michael Beck’s book, Deep Roots, Wild Branches: Revitalizing the Church in the Blended Ecology can be found on Seedbed and Amazon.

Mission-shaped Church: Church Planting and Fresh Expressions of Church in a Changing Context by Graham Cray can be found on Amazon

From the Steeple to the Street information can be found on the Fresh Expressions website.

To learn more about Fresh Expressions, visit:


Thinking Outside the Church is a new, limited series podcast by Ben & Katie Conrad, hosting conversations about the modern church culture and new ways of expressing Christian Community.

Each Monday, they’ll be dropping a new episode to help you in your Fresh Expressions journey.

Ben is a current student at Evangelical Theological Seminary and works at First United Methodist Church in their Acts Network ministry to develop Fresh Expressions communities in Williamsport, PA.

Katie works at First United Methodist Church as their Director of Technology. She loves sharing stories in meaningful ways to connect people.

They are excited because of the knowledge and advice shared by experienced leaders who know what’s going on in the church today, and how we can navigate this new world.

Thinking Outside the Church


Podcast Schedule: 

Episode 0 – “They’re Saying That About the Church?”
Episode 1 — “The Modern Reformation” with Chris Backert
Episode 2 — “Being a Church Leader Today” with J.R. Briggs
Episode 3 — “Blended Ecology (Both/And Church)” with Michael Beck.
Episode 4 — “What is Fresh Expressions?” with Shannon Kiser
Episode 5 —  “Bridging the Gap” with Mitch Marcello and Matt Lake



Bob Hyatt

Bob is the Director of Equipping and Spiritual Formation for the Ecclesia Network. He’s the co-author of Eldership and the Mission of God: Equipping Teams for Faithful Church Leadership as well as Ministry Mantras: Language for Cultivating Kingdom Culture. He planted the Evergreen Community in Portland, OR in 2004 and holds a DMin from George Fox/Portland Seminary. Bob currently lives in Boise, ID with his wife, Amy, his kids, Jack, Jane, and Josie and his dog, Bentley.


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